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lana70 -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (5.3.2010 10:36:34)


IZVIRNO SPOROČILO: mausikaa

IZVIRNO SPOROČILO: gigi1

Mausi, če bi napisala napotnico za androloga bi še šlo čez. Za ginekologa??? Hi, hi si kar predstavljam naše fante na gin. stolu [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif[/image]  [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif[/image]  [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif[/image]
A je tvoj ziher, da ima njegova dr. diplomo [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/zmeden.gif[/image]  Se mi zdi, da ji osnovne zadeve ne špilajo.
No, šalo na stran...verjetno bo rabil novo napotnico.



[image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/zmeden.gif[/image] ja se tudi jaz včasih sprašujem...nič, bom kar poklicala k Reškotu in vprašala kako in kaj...



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miklarom -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (5.3.2010 10:52:11)

gigi -ja,ja žulim desni bok[image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image]

kruce - ja, bomo vidli,če bo kriv Kanin[image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif[/image], Ti mi samo drži pestke za 17.3., da bo lahk pol žurka[image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image]

lana - še malo pa dihanje za našo liziko[image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image]

Hermy - dobrodošla med nami in srečno do konca [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/nosecka.gif[/image], si pa pravi zgled vseh nas, kapo dol




Fidolina -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (5.3.2010 11:04:30)

Mausi  [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif[/image] - nekaj kopi-pejst (če bi slučajno dr. od tvojega razlago rabila[image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif[/image]):
 
Ginekologija je veja medicine, ki se ukvarja s preučevanjem, preprečevanjem in zdravljenjem bolezni ženskega reproduktivnega sistema (vagine, maternice, jajčnikov,...).
Zdravnik-specialist, ki deluje na tem področju, se imenuje ginekolog.

[image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif[/image] Miklarom - živel Kanin [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image]! Ima, da je gorski zrak pripravil lepo gnezdece za pingoja[image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image]. Prava temperatura[image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image].





miklarom -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (5.3.2010 11:15:51)

Fidolina - ja je bla prava temperatura, pa tudi včeraj je bilo glih pravšnje vreme, da je naš pingo iz škrinje prišel tudi na malo hladnejše temperature, da se je privajal prave temperature, predno je šel na toplo

madona, da vam povem, so včeraj rekli kako se sedaj rihtati po ET-ju, in sestra reče, nič težkega dela in dvigovajna, nič kopanja v bazenu in morju, in nič '' SEKSA '' pa men pol moj reče, da saj seks pa ni težko delo , alo, sem rekla, ja pač ne smema je pa naporno[image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image], mislim, ti naši dedci so pa tud ta pravi[image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image]




hermy1 -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (5.3.2010 11:35:06)

Hvala, konzervice za res prijazen sprejem [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif[/image] [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif[/image] [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif[/image]!!!

Upam, da bo katero res premagalo...posebno sedaj, ko bo počasi tud sončku uspelo priti na plano!
Mi smo dobro, le da smo dobili odločbo od komisije, ki določa, da moram v ponedeljek v službo [image]http://www.neplodnost.info/forum/images/smiles/risatissima.gif[/image]. To so tam veseli...ker pri njih sem že zgodba: Odpisani! Sem jih ves čas opozarjala, naj me ne odpikajo tako na hitro, zdej pa mamo, vsi skup. Glih sem se navadla kavč glancat...knjige nabirat...
No, bomo pa še pritožbe pisal, če bo kaj pomagal...če ne...to bom pa drug teden razmišljala...se mi zdi, da je to za [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/nosecka.gif[/image]lahko že prevelik napor [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image] !

Pridno grejte [image]http://www.neplodnost.info/forum/images/smiles/cold2.gif[/image] čez vikend, nej še "boljše" polovice pomagajo...pa, da bi ne prišlo do kakšnih skušnjav!!




mausikaa -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (5.3.2010 11:37:46)

IZVIRNO SPOROČILO: Fidolina

Mausi  [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif[/image]  - nekaj kopi-pejst (če bi slučajno dr. od tvojega razlago rabila[image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif[/image] ):
 
Ginekologija je veja medicine, ki se ukvarja s preučevanjem, preprečevanjem in zdravljenjem bolezni ženskega reproduktivnega sistema (vagine, maternice, jajčnikov,...).
Zdravnik-specialist, ki deluje na tem področju, se imenuje ginekolog.



joj babe no...[image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif[/image]  no sem poklicala k Reškotu in se je una na drugi strani začela smejat in mi je komaj uspela izdaviti, da je OK, da pa moj sigurni ni edini ki je dobil napotnico za ginekologa [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif[/image] 


hmm, Miklica a pol nič [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/sloncek.gif[/image] praviš daj je to naporno delo ? [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image]




gigi1 -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (5.3.2010 11:47:02)

Mausi [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image] [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image] [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image] tale dr. od tvojega nam je pa nasmejala dan [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif[/image]. Očitno ni edina, ki se spozna na te zadeve [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image]

Hermy aaaaaaa [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif[/image] so nori? Komi pridemo do [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/nosecka.gif[/image], pa še v naših letih...komisija pa tkole??? Mislim - to je pa res za na Kanal A. Madona me podraži tole šparanje za vsako ceno [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/grrr.gif[/image]. Ti jim kar ostro pritožbo napiši!

Miklca ja rimski slog [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif[/image]. Tvoj naj ti pa hrano nosi [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif[/image]. Pa ne kakšne afrodiziake, prosim [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image]. Madona so hecni. Ko jih lovimo okoli, ko imamo O, se nas nekaj otepajo...ko pa ni treba se pritožujejo. Ja nikoli jim ni prav [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image]




Naska -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (5.3.2010 12:26:25)

same lepe stvari!

HErmy, - dobrodošla pa še več te bomo spraševale!

Miklarom - grej lepo!
BEbiii - lulaj lepo!

kdo še??? še 9.3. čakamo, a ne?
no zdaj veste, zakaj nikoli po imenih ne govorim in ne navijam, ker itak pozabim.

hmmm, zdaj bo naš forum dobil podforum praga - kaj pravite - resno -ležalke in slamičarke - gremo!





Rakica_80 -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (5.3.2010 12:38:28)

Dan[image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif[/image]
Še tukaj da vam povem, da jutri delam test CB, ampak nisem preveč sigurna, ker znakov nimam nobenih[image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/zmeden.gif[/image]
Kot sem že rekla bo kar bo, če ne gremo naprej[image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image]
Bodite mi dobro.
Pa pa[image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif[/image]




hermy1 -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (5.3.2010 12:41:29)

IZVIRNO SPOROČILO: gigi1

Hermy aaaaaaa [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif[/image]  so nori? Komi pridemo do [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/nosecka.gif[/image] , pa še v naših letih...komisija pa tkole??? Mislim - to je pa res za na Kanal A. Madona me podraži tole šparanje za vsako ceno [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/grrr.gif[/image] . Ti jim kar ostro pritožbo napiši!


Pritožba oddana...saj niso vse leta...pa to, da tri leta čakaš, da si [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/nosecka.gif[/image], ampak bolj to,...da sem se tri tedne sama katetrizirala zaradi maternice, ki se je tako postavila, da sem imela čisto retenco (zaprtje) urina, da imam že od prej kronična vnetja ledvic in mehurja... In to je imela tud napisano...ampak očitno izvidov sploh ne preberejo! Me prav zanima, kaj bodo odgovorili [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley22.gif[/image]?




Naska -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (5.3.2010 13:16:25)

hermy,
koliko časa si pa čakala od takrat ko si oddala prošnjo v Prago?




miklarom -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (5.3.2010 13:21:47)

hermy -kaaaaj, kar prekinili so ti bolniško[image]http://www.cosgan.de/images/midi/boese/e060.gif[/image] , saj to je za znoret, nekaterim pa ki so pravi simulanti za delo, jim pa kar podalšujejo, nam ženskam , ki se pa takole mučimo leta in leta, da bi prišli do svojih [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/duda.gif[/image] , nas pa pošteno j.....o, to pa je naše zdravstvo, nič se ne pustit[image]http://www.cosgan.de/images/midi/boese/a045.gif[/image] , ti samo vztrajaj na bolniško.




alpog -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (5.3.2010 15:05:40)

Hermy, tvoja nosečnost je vsekakor visoko rizična! Za nobeno ceno ne it v službo. Kar glancaj kavč - edina varianta.




Fidolina -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (5.3.2010 17:11:57)

Hermi - glancat kavč. Pa res brez heca. Zdaj sta "vidva" na prvem mestu. Bom huda (bi rekla Gigi).

Drugače pa [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image] - treniram:

Moji drazí přátelé Chci hezký a úspěšný víkend. Některé skvělý sex, nkaterim nic sex.
Miluji vás všechny moc [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif[/image].
Posílám vám pusu [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image]

Če, kdo zna zares češko, naj me ne linča [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image].




miklarom -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (5.3.2010 17:38:48)

fida - madonca, če pa vem kaj tole piše, pol bom pa tud kitajsko znala brat[image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image]




mausikaa -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (5.3.2010 19:44:20)

IZVIRNO SPOROČILO: Fidolina


Moji drazí přátelé Chci hezký a úspěšný víkend. Některé skvělý sex, nkaterim nic sex.
Miluji vás všechny moc [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif[/image] .
Posílám vám pusu [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image]



Fidi, tole je še boljše kot kitajsko zelje ;-)





hermy1 -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (5.3.2010 20:39:52)

IZVIRNO SPOROČILO: Naska

hermy,
koliko časa si pa čakala od takrat ko si oddala prošnjo v Prago?


Februarja sva bila na razgovoru, avgusta pa je bil prvi ET, po neuspelem transferju svetujejo tri mesece počitka, tako sva šla konec novembra drugič in od takrat sem srečka [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/nosecka.gif[/image]. Se pa ne preveč zanašat na to, ker je res odvisno, kakšno darovalko potrebuješ sam, kakšne so na "razpolago" in tudi, koliko imajo navala.
No, nama je Praga na sploh tako lepa, da moj razmišlja, da bi spet morala it - tokrat na dopust, ker že  kar dolgo nisva bila [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif[/image] od novembra. Knedlički in njihovo pivo so pa tako zakon [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif[/image] [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif[/image] [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif[/image]!




hermy1 -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (5.3.2010 20:47:11)

IZVIRNO SPOROČILO: Fidolina

Hermi - glancat kavč. Pa res brez heca. Zdaj sta "vidva" na prvem mestu. Bom huda (bi rekla Gigi).

Drugače pa [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image]  - treniram:

Moji drazí přátelé Chci hezký a úspěšný víkend. Některé skvělý sex, nkaterim nic sex.
Miluji vás všechny moc [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif[/image] .

Če, kdo zna zares češko, naj me ne linča [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image] .


Fidolina, ti gre kar dobro...kar tako naprej...čeprav ti bo tudi hrvaščina prav prišla [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image].
Punce, hvala za podporo...saj zdaj se kavču ne mislim več tako zlahka odpovedat, se bomo šli pa igrice z zavarovalnico. Sta moji dr. (osebna in G) tud naspidirani, da jim povesta svoje!!! Mam pač tako srečo (kot že večkrat v životu), da mora ravno naše območje pokrivat ena zaj...na zdravnica.
Pa bomo zmagali...če smo vse te boje, bomo pa še tega...ni vrag [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image] [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image]!
Posílám vám pusu [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/jezicek.gif[/image] in lep vikend!




miklarom -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (6.3.2010 6:35:01)

jutro![image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif[/image]

[image]http://bp1.blogger.com/_rCQx3DmbLro/R00uk6NX9rI/AAAAAAAAAGw/i0eoN-6LxEo/s400/ist2_3768038_morning_coffe.jpg[/image] 




hermy1 -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (6.3.2010 9:01:06)

Še nekaj informacija za Brno. Te sem skopirala, so malo starejšega letnika, ampak za začetek sem prepričana da bodo dobre informacije. So od dveh bejb, ki sta se zanimali pri njih. Naj bodo kateri v pomoč pri odločitvi.

Iz Brna sem pa dobila zelo izčrpen mejl v angleščini, ki ga kar kopiram v nadaljevanju. Če vam kaj pomaga, bom zelo vesela. E-mail gospe, ki mi ga je napisala, je: kvesela@repromeda.cz.

Thank you for your email as well as for your confidence. The egg/sperm donation program is a routine part of the infertility treatment provided at our clinic. The pregnancy rate in 2007 was 52 % (also in age over 40). We use the eggs of out-door dedicated donors who have to be completely healthy, they undergo detailed investigation focused on the genetic statement (normal genetic evaluation and no evidence of genetic disease in their family) as well as the mental status and the general health conditions. All of them are under their 34. Any socially unreliable or imprisoned individuals are not accepted. All of the egg/sperm donors are tested for HIV, hepatitis B,C, syphilis etc.

The approx. waiting time for the donor matching is about 2-3 month. The main physical properties of the couple are matched (hair and eye colour, skin type, height, blood type). In reality the waiting time depends on the requested physical properties and your blood types. The expected average price is the standard program is about 4 900 Euro. Please, accept this price like the preliminary one, the final price depends on the number of fertilized eggs, details of the procedures, on the actual exchange rate, etc.

There are also special advanced programs available if some special requests are required (age, education, special physical properties, etc.). E.g. the personalized program is from 7 900 Euro. There is also the fee refund program available.( More information available on request.)

In all our programs the embryotransfer is guaranteed. If there are supernumerary embryos of a top quality they are cryopreserved. The egg sharing is allowed only in case of extreme number of oocytes not to decrease the chance for pregnancy in our clients. If there is a problem with the quality and number of the donor eggs, a back-up donor is dedicated without any additional payment in the nearest term.

The foreign clients start their treatment by means of “On - line consultation service” (OLC). Through this service you can consult all the treatment - related steps as well as all your health problems. The consultation is provided by email, in urgent matters also by phone.

After becoming the OLC client you will receive the list of obligatory evaluations to prepare them in your native country. In case you are not able to prepare the evaluations by your local doctor, you can perform them at our clinic.

The OLC service spares your time and money too as far as the number of personal visits is lowered to a minimum whilst the quality of the treatment remains unchanged. All your important decisions can be made in a home quiet and comfort.

All your further questions could be answered using this OLC service. If you are interested to embark it, please let me know.

 
Še eno sporočilo iz Brna:
Eggs – for patients in need of an egg donor, we can offer two options:
Coordinated cycle – is when cycles of the donor and the recipient are coordinated. Donor comes to the clinic on the 14th day for eggs retrieval. Recipient’s partner comes on the same day for fertilization (frozen or donor sperm can also be used). The presence of the recipient is practically needed on the day of transfer – about 5 days from fertilization. Due to the coordinating process, this cycle is very time demanding and at this moment, the waiting list for a coordinated egg donor cycle is 6-8months.
Uncoordinated cycle – once donor eggs become available, they get fertilized with partner’s sperm (can be frozen). After five days of cultivation, the best embryos get frozen- upon the receipt of the genetic test, recipient is invited for embryo transfer. The waiting list for this egg donor cycle is 6-10 months.

The donor of eggs has a genetic checkup.

Please note that donor eggs are offered to patients as they become available. Special request for donors (i.e. blood group, hair color, eye color, height, etc) can just lengthen the waiting period
The waiting period for the donor is usualy about 6 months, depending on your specific requirements for donor and whether you prefer synchnized or unsynchronized cycle.
We mostly use the unsychnronized cycle whereby the partner´s sperm is frozen and used when donor eggs become available. The embryos created are then frozen and then replaced in a hormone replacement cycle.

Our pregnancy rates are 50-55% from fresh IVF (not donor program). Out freezing program works pretty well the results of cryoembryo transfers are almost same.
In the case of the synchronized cycle we can not guarantee how many of oocytes will be there and how the cultivation will be going as well as the quality of the embryos at the end.
In the case of cryo embryotransfer, we start to prepare you for the transfer, when we are sure, that we have good quality blastocyst for transfer and that your trip will be not a waste of time.
The price for synchronized cycle is 4000 Euro, unsynchronized cycle is 3500 Euro. Half of the price must be paid into our bank account when we receive your application form – I can send it to you by e-mail – you have to fill in the documents and send them by post to our adress. We will write you down on our waiting list.

We offer egg donor program for patient till 48 years.







mausikaa -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (6.3.2010 21:31:04)

dober večer, evo da ne bom samo dopoldan smetila, bom še malo zvečer [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif[/image] 
Hermy to je pa obširno poročilo, super in seveda hvala...zna biti uporabno za une naše pod palmo [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif[/image] 

Lanči kako Lizika? Se že kaj najavlja ali jo bo treba res deložirati iz apartmaja?




lana70 -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (6.3.2010 22:24:11)


IZVIRNO SPOROČILO: mausikaa


Lanči kako Lizika? Se že kaj najavlja ali jo bo treba res deložirati iz apartmaja?



...mislim, da samo še deložacija pride v poštev.....enim je res luštno [sm=smiley36.gif]...čakam na torek, pa da vidimo, kakšna odločitev bo padla.




miklarom -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (7.3.2010 10:26:43)

lana - še samo dva dni pa dihamooooooo, za našo liziko in zate[image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image]




Rakica_80 -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (7.3.2010 14:48:48)

IZVIRNO SPOROČILO: miklarom

lana - še samo dva dni pa dihamooooooo, za našo liziko in zate[image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image]


Juhuuuuu, še malooo[image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/bravo.gif[/image]




gigi1 -> RE: Nismo še obupale kljub 40+ II. del (7.3.2010 19:27:54)

Bebiii kaj je to? [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley13.gif[/image] Iz tvojega podpisa sklepam, da nimaš dobrih novičk. Ma šit no! Že cel vikend mislim nate, pa do zdej nisem prišla do compa. Velik objem draga moja [image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif[/image][image]http://www.ringaraja.net/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif[/image]




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